(not a) Bug: Ground is not irrigated despite water (Levee blocking irrigation?)
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[Mod edit]:
From update text of patch on 12 Oct.:
> You asked for more ways to control how the pollution spreads, so from now on, Dams, Levees, and Floodgates stop the ground’s contamination. This change also applies to irrigation, though, so plan carefully.
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Bug occured on update 5 experimental.
Despite irrigating ground earlier suddenly water does not irrigate anything through levees. This started occuring recently, however it is consistent on all my saves suddenly (even before first encounter of the bug!).
No idea how to reproduce it. The only nonstandard thing that I did was starting playing Timberborn on steamdeck (experimental 5 as well) and this is when this gamesave corruption started. Before I was playing on my desktop computer and it was fine.
I will send saves through mail, I am attaching picture below.
MOD EDIT: Please read the patch notes. They don't bite. Usually.
Comments: 30
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12 Oct, '23
Aneska Deth MergedLatest Experimental save. When I start, I have water running next to some lovely fields keeping the crops fresh. When you start up, from the town centre, the crops all die regardless of the water!!!
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12 Oct, '23
Gin Fuyou Admin MergedPlease read the update notes first
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12 Oct, '23
Aneska Deth MergedI am so confused!
"You asked for more ways to control how the pollution spreads, so from now on, Dams, Levees, and Floodgates stop the ground’s contamination. This change also applies to irrigation, though, so plan carefully.
Dams, Levees, and Floodgates now prevent irrigation and contamination spread."
However, I have played for hours with this and my fields have been fine and well watered until I loaded my save game?! Please see new picture. The new picture shows how it has played in the new experimental update with badwater. However, the latest save makes all the crops die when I load it up like in the first picture. I still think there is a bug? -
12 Oct, '23
Aneska Deth MergedNevermind, you updated it again today, which is why it doesn't work anymore. Shame really as I still feel that water would irrigate at least a little bit because of the soil underneath the structure.
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12 Oct, '23
Ivan MergedHello!
I managed to raise the water level higher than the ground where my trees are, but for some reason they are drying.
Is it a bug, or do I miss something obvious here?
(I play with Update 5)
Thank you.
Kind regards,
Ivan -
12 Oct, '23
Nicolas DUPRE MergedHello Team,
I send you a warning about the new update :
"Dams, Levees, and Floodgates now prevent irrigation and contamination spread."
I'm facing to a weird soil irrigation. I'm not sure it is a bug or if it the expected behavior.
I tried to dig one height more deeper, but that did not change anything.
Breaking one dam element will solve the issue.
This is the only case found in mygame.
Please find my savegame here :
https://mega.nz/file/ydUGEAAS#aWLsq6JSin51A835mn8Xw_xJEvZqU0HwRzF_3HfCO4U
Edit : Understood. This water does not irrigate anything. I have 2 waters sources + a river that will surround this source. So it's works as expected -
13 Oct, '23
Aevum Decessus MergedJust loaded up a save from yesterday, and all of my crops and trees just suddenly dried out simultaneously at the very beginning of a drought, even though there is 2+ layers of water in the canal system.
Player logs and save file sent in to logs email, as this didn't cause a crash-reporter crash -
13 Oct, '23
KD MergedI built levees thinking that the are behind them the water would get wet and be usable for farming (I feel Like it used to work like this), but the levee seems to block that, like it does with badwater pollution now, I am playing on the experimental update 5 branch.
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13 Oct, '23
Ms. Beaver MergedFor some reason my beaver-made lake isn't irrigating a portion of my land on the experimental branch :( I'm playing Ironworks.
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13 Oct, '23
Freeheelin MergedAll my farmland dried out during badtide, even though my reservoir is full. There shouldn't be any badwater in the reservoir because I activated my diversion a couple tenths of a day before the badtide started. Any help appreciated.
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13 Oct, '23
Gin Fuyou AdminPlease read patch notes before reporting features.
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13 Oct, '23
Gin Fuyou Admin"Possible bug on experimental branch update 5" (suggested by Freeheelin on 2023-10-13), including upvotes (1) and comments (0), was merged into this suggestion.
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13 Oct, '23
Gin Fuyou Admin"Experimental Branch Irrigation Not Working" (suggested by Ms. Beaver on 2023-10-13), including upvotes (1) and comments (0), was merged into this suggestion.
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13 Oct, '23
Gin Fuyou Admin"ground behind levees not getting wet" (suggested by KD on 2023-10-13), including upvotes (1) and comments (0), was merged into this suggestion.
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13 Oct, '23
Gin Fuyou Admin"Experimental 5 - All crops suddenly dried out with water available in canals" (suggested by Aevum Decessus on 2023-10-13), including upvotes (1) and comments (0), was merged into this suggestion.
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13 Oct, '23
Gin Fuyou Admin"[SOLVED] - Bug - Soil irrigation - Dams filtering - v0.5.1.0-41bc9c8-xsw" (suggested by Nicolas DUPRE on 2023-10-12), including upvotes (1) and comments (0), was merged into this suggestion.
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13 Oct, '23
Gin Fuyou Admin"Water doesn't help crops *** BUG ***" (suggested by Aneska Deth on 2023-10-12), including upvotes (1) and comments (3), was merged into this suggestion.
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13 Oct, '23
Gin Fuyou Admin"I don't understand why my trees are drying." (suggested by Ivan on 2023-10-12), including upvotes (1) and comments (0), was merged into this suggestion.
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13 Oct, '23
VulpusTumultum MergedUpdate 5 Plains map I have had problems in a few places where the water I have trapped with levees and dams is not being recognized by the terrain as a source of irrigation. This is resulting in patches of land that should be usable for farming remaining dry and barren however full the nearby reservoir is.
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13 Oct, '23
Gin Fuyou Admin"Bug- Water not being recognized by terrain in Plains map" (suggested by VulpusTumultum on 2023-10-13), including upvotes (1) and comments (0), was merged into this suggestion.
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14 Oct, '23
adiantumThere should probably be some adjustment made so that ground in contact with water, even with a levee on top, still gets irrigated. That is what seems counterintuitive to many people with the new update.
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17 Oct, '23
RazpielHi.
I understand the idea to use Dams, Levees, and Floodgates to control the badwater's effect, but I think that effect would be controled in the same layer that you build the structure. I don't understand why the irrigation effect from the water can be reduce because I build a Levee in the top layer. The water is touching the ground layer at 100% of its face.
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18 Oct, '23
Aneska DethI would suggest that if water is completely contained with leeves, then no/very slight irrigation can happen. However, if water is sitting on top of soil, it should irrigate under the leeve, but maybe not as much as it would have if the leeve was not present.:
LWWWL
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no/small irrigation
LWWL
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some irrigation
SWWWS
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18 Oct, '23
Gergo MergedThe land dries and remains dry when an irrigation tower is deleted even if there's other water source nearby. Reload or restart doesn't restore it.
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19 Oct, '23
Jcheung Admin"Irrigation tower delete bug" (suggested by Gergo on 2023-10-18), including upvotes (1) and comments (0), was merged into this suggestion.
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28 Oct, '23
Mike MergedI raise my region water level using a dam. All farms now are dead. Previous plants watering logic broken?
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29 Oct, '23
Gin Fuyou Admin MergedPlease read patch notes
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29 Oct, '23
Gin Fuyou Admin"Weird water behavior" (suggested by Mike on 2023-10-28), including upvotes (1) and comments (1), was merged into this suggestion.
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30 Oct, '23
Glamr Edhel MergedIt seems that in the newest experimental branch the soil is barely letting the water through.
Playing on a small map, making a levee wall next to the river causes dry terrain just on the other side of the wall - even if the water level behind the wall is several "levels" high. -
30 Oct, '23
Gin Fuyou Admin"Experimental: water mechanics: soil is barely letting water through" (suggested by Glamr Edhel on 2023-10-30), including upvotes (1) and comments (0), was merged into this suggestion.
